Hello everyone. I hope you well. My name is Tim She, Editor, the Brewers Journal, And it's a pleasure today to be app placed through cohen Sheffield, and I'm joined Hi, Dan Hunt. C founder a Pies bo. How you doing? Yes. Good mate. Thank you. Excellent. Excellent. What a fantastic home you've got here? Yeah. It's quite nice. It's it's a bit different to our last place for you. It's... Yes, Well, we'll get onto to that. I mean, we're only, obviously in 1 small part, but we'll figure out the video. We'll make sure people see the the the next door. Yeah and obviously, having a a great tap room was very, very important for you guys. You know, it seems to be like a a real, the the heart and the spiritual home at the brewery. Yeah. I mean, I suppose that the Tap room is kind of the lifeblood of the local brewery. Yeah. Not that we have that many in the Uk, but they are becoming more and more prevalent. When we first start 1 of the key things that we wanted to have was a director to customer route and finding the right venue in the right area that was an not enough football was sort of imperative to our plans to move forward. Yeah. And obviously, we have, an active brewery, just out a shot, and we've got the tap it's just open. So it's a nice buzz, a literal buzz. Yep. About the place. And then it's... I mean, what was the building before? The building before it is abandoned for about 11 years before we had it. So, during Covid, the whole roof was off and everything. It was a bit of a bit of a a bit of a long journey to get Let's put it that way. But. Yeah. Originally, the building made knives. So there's a lot of old cutlery rework around this area, and that's what it originally was. I think there's a real fascinating history to be heard about the, you know, the old brewery sites in the Uk, You know, what what what what their previous format was what, you know, obviously, Spring well in leeds was you know, they've previous Think you used to make leather. Yeah. And there's countless others as well. So it's a... And as we just said, it's a working group people are here. It's it's great to great great buzz about that. So but this wasn't an awesome the home from day 1 though. No. We started off in a small village called Clan. Mh. Clown with a knee on the end. Yes. Yeah. So that that was our original home. The main reason for that being, you know, where we are now in Sheffield is pretty busy going out area. And clown was a little bit more affordable, and we just found a really great space in an old school building. So we managed secure that. We we're there 3 years prior to Covid. And then just before Covid, we acquired this site and then the build side to sort of expand the brewery operations mainly. And obviously, you're not from Sheffield, but you're cofounder business partner Adam is is originally from here. Yes. So where where was home for you? I'm from Here. Oh fantastic. Yeah Yeah. A look little bit different side of country. Yeah. I drink that. Side when I was younger that it put me on to be. So what lure you what what what made you fall up with sheffield? I don't know. There there there there's a few bits. I think the main thing is that Her if it's quite a small town city, but town, where... And Sheffield got a similar eye, but it's just a lot more going So coming from a quite sleepy, sleepy small city to something a little bit more metropolitan and a little bit more going on, but nothing ridiculously big. I lived in Brent Royal and, like, you spend quite a lot of time in London and I absolutely loved it, but living in there full time wasn't really it. And She has just got so much green space. Really good sort of independent by the about as well. So just landed here and never looked back. I mean, was it? Obviously, you know, it's couple years in the making. Did you expect this to be, you know, high b in 20 24 because it's it's a very accomplished very established space and, really for for speaking to industry peers and and and friends who just have to be know, lifelong friends who just fans are great beer. The first place is I'm gonna shift. You got go to heist. Yeah. Yeah. Base yourself there and everything else can follow. You know, and you've got great great pubs and great bars and and everything else in between, but this seems to be, you know, the the top destination real? Yeah. But I think we're Spoil in Sheffield at the moment. It's always been really good for beer, but at the moment, it's just getting better and better and we're really glad to be sort of a apart that. There were times and we never thought we'd make it here during Covid when we're doing the build. However, right now, really happy at thriving in a really sort of coming area of the city well. I mean, just from the outside, you know, I mean, embarrassing, I'm I'm rarely here, but, obviously, you've got, you know, fantastic hot. Yeah. Rut Arms. I mean, you know these are probably just... Someone said, oh, you're going to London and someone saying, probably go to leicester square and common problems Other that the classics. I mean, what where else has you know, it is sort of a must for you of if someone come to shift for the first time. I mean, you you nailed those 2 down. They're both great. A hop hideout is currently moving as well The own Yeah, which really excited for there's a really new bar on the scene called the the old shoe. Which she is kind of in the city center. That for me is 1 of the best bars in the country right now. Yeah. You mentioned the Rut ones, You got a sister by the crow, which isn't too far from here. There are count many? Yeah. Yeah. So... Do you feel despite not being from Sheffield? Do you feel that high is a Chef brewery. I feel I feel so. Yeah. When when we first sight in clown because we had the S post code, do we score ourselves a Sheffield brewery although, people always argued that we weren't. But since we moved into the city center that we've been kinda welcome with open arms. So we're a lot more involved in the in the beer scene, there's some really good breweries around here as well. So working quite closely alongside them. I do feel like now this is an established sheffield brewery. Amazing. And I think, obviously, you probably be too honest to admit, but, you know, places like your home here. It's obviously not just the place for for beer. He's see that that that's obviously a very important starting point, but there's so much more besides. It seems to be like a real good community hub place for people to go out and have a good time even if they're not really beer fact. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that that was it. When we went to the... What we done a few trips over to the Us and see most of the brewery taps aren't necessary just full of big geek. Because it's kind of a community feel. We we're family friendly during the day, not during the evening. We've got got stuff forever everyone to do. We've got a dis discovery site, which we just still as well. We put sports on because there's no way good to have a beer and sports, but we're not a sports bar. So we have our own sort of unique crowd that's kinda of different to anything thing that we wanted it. We just created a space that we enjoyed drink been. Amazing. Amazing. And what, you know, for me being... Obviously, un unsurprisingly self confess beer geek, what I really love is at these amazing beers here, you know, great collab labs, great, you know, spectrum of beer styles. I mean, having this great tap space here. I mean, it must be great. Be on the brewing side production side to have that that testing ground, You know, to for imagine you do some small batch stuff where you can... People can go, hey. Great. Make you it more permanent. Don't do do it bigger vouchers. Yeah. For sure. Ab brewery is still kind of small. The bro itself. So we you are still cranking out a lot. Beer on a very small kit. However, the the brewery team that we've got at the moment are just really nailing different like, crazy styles yet, nailing down the classics as well. But we've we've always just had that little bit of creative freedom to not worry too much about the process in terms of the costing because number 1, we have an outlet sell it too directly. Yep. And number 2, we're not huge yet. Now when we get the upgrade at some point, hopefully this year. That might change slightly. So after Dial. What we're looking at on the, as much as your able or want to say, you know, in terms of upgrading this side of things. So we're currently looking at sort of 3 x in the size. Currently we do out, it's 5 barrels so up to about 15 barrel. Okay. Size the the tap room just takes that much. That's... That the b we got here alone is enough just to service the bar. However, we still do export. We still do national delivery, and it's a lot of work and usually within about 2 or 3 days of putting your bill live, everything's gone. Yeah. And then it's a process of starting all again and waiting. So anybody who's ever bought anything from us will know there's Huge a 4 or 5 week gap between releases and purely just down to the how quick things sell and how slowly we can produce them. Suppose to you know cliche, but a nice problem to have. Isn't it? You know, like, having too many people wanting your beer, you know, especially when it's your own direct, you know, customers k to tap room? Yeah. No. It's really good. It's really good. It was really, really good for the first couple of years, and it it gets a little bit frustrating. There's always that sort of a fear that you're gonna drop off radar a little bit if you you can't service your customers. So really, the the focus this year is to get that upgraded and get more beer out there. Great stuff. And while, your sheffield base, I feel like you're kind of globally influenced with the amount of is it 40 or 60 collaborations you've done or with the various breweries over the years? Yeah. People do take the neck of us right. I've heard it a few times. But, yeah. We when we first started, we weren't a brewery a bar. So a lot of our influences sort of were based mainly on the collaborations that people willing to do with us work when we're doing Tap events. So it's just something that we've really enjoyed doing. You know, we have a lot of taps here at the tap rooms. So being able to fill that with Ko labs because we can't necessarily produce everything here and just make making friends around the industry as or. That is. Yeah. Yeah. No. It's it's it's great. I mean, when you were in your... You know, in running that a fantastic bottle shop, what were the sort of breweries I suppose in the Uk or further, overseas stuff that really lit that fire in you. And it's like, hey, this is this is something I wanna be involved in. I there there was a few. I mean, a cup... Like, probably the biggest influence at this time was, I I know they're they were very new themselves, but, Neon Raptor. Yep. Mainly because we were speaking to Adam him quite a lot before we opened up because we had a space, and he was currently bringing out of black hole brewery in Burton, and he was looking for somewhere. We had a space for a brewery. We offered it to him to have a look and he just wasn't quite big enough. Yeah. And he basically just said, why, why aren't don't you do yourselves? And that was that was it really. We saw the stuff he was doing the beer beers coming out and at same time you all the cloud war dip series. It was just an explosion of of new breweries and crazy. There's crazy beers coming out. Yeah. So, yeah. Fantastic fantastic brewing in the Uk. Obviously, it's going for some evolution, some challenges, I guess, and I believe that, you know, here at heist, you... You've had to go through your own growth strategy and and changes here. So 1 of the things that that really impacts us was the inability to expand when we needed to and just not being able to push the beers out as quickly as we needed to to service space like this. There's always a toss up between do we service a tap room and Annoy are wholesale customers, do we service as our wholesale customers and have nothing for the tap room. When expansion was always on the cars, We didn't want to upset either 1 yet for 1 reason or another in terms of some people had not just on board, but some other things that happen on sight. We actually ultimately have to go into liquidation beginning of this year, which is a tough decision to make, but we didn't really have much of a choice. We we couldn't continue the way we are continuing. In the process of that, a local security firm that works here in Sheffield who are own a couple of bars. They have been, speaking to Liquidate data and they've actually acquired the business. We promise to keep on the staff to maintain the vision for heist movement forward, and suppose the key thing was is I think the main thing that that pushes us over the edge was a big energy bill. So the new guys are come in, they've made sure that nobody's left out of pocket and that there hasn't been any big fallout because as much as these say these guys have be massive influences, they're also imperative in order to continue the craft beer trend moving forward. So we don't wanna impact them. We know what it's like not to have invoices paid. We know the massive impact can have, and that that's kind of the way we look at it. We can. Can't do that to people. No. No no. And it and, you know, speaking to you earlier this week, you know, ahead of our event here tomorrow is that Yeah. I really enjoyed and appreciated. The way that I mentioned some of the breweries taking part, yeah, attending and so on. Your desire to get their beers on the bar to platform them to showcase them. I think, you know, for for for many, many years, 1 of the biggest qualities people you know, platform, I guess in Craft beer is the community, the comrade that that spirit of working together. And I think it's great to see that in play here. Yeah. For sure. For sure. And it it it just gives us an excuse to fill up the taps with something that we might not have no normally done So... No. Great. Great. Great lineup up today as per usual, I guess. So so what's the obviously talked about the, you know, the growth plans going forward? I mean, that's obviously a huge part of anyone's root map. But any other plans, any other sort of events or cola labs that people should be looking out for going forward. We've still got a few... We we we... At the moment, we we've we've obviously, had to stop brewing. The licenses need to be reap applied for. Yeah. So everything's kind of not ground to a halt, but on a pause until we can get that sorted, shouldn't be too far away now, and we'll be relaunch with a bang. Although we won't have the new equipment in place, we'll have the resources in order to be able to keep those tanks full and keep the beer turning over. Right. We do have a couple of pre pre arranged events. I I don't know when this is going out, but we're in docks fest this weekend up in Grim b. Next weekend, we're in Bo in Norway. Okay. With Garden Brewery. And Yep. Couple of Uk, pom and R I think are there as well. So that should be really good. And then, yeah, just moving forward, we've got got all sorts planned. All sorts of things we wanna do, yet nothing quite nailed down right now. It's been kind of a transitional The year is flying by, but it's also still young. You know? So for people, by myself the first time here today, as I said, took to my shame, but it won't be the first, but won't be the lawsuits for sure. People don't wanna come and visit the, you know, brewery in due course, try try your your own beers, but in the meantime, try to guest beers in the environment you have on offer? What's the opening times throughout the week? So we're 6 days a week, growing on Tuesday through Sunday. Tuesday and Wednesdays working from 4 till midnight. Thursday, Friday, Saturday working 12 till midnight. And sundays we're open 12 till 10. I mean nobody in the crappy beer industry likes to have abnormal opening hours. Just to make it confusing. Yeah. Yeah. It's you could say that again. Yeah. And But when the time is right later in the year when when production back up and running, what's the website that people can check out for any beer orders they wanna bid in. So website is WWW dot he dot com. Ea, And we should have our first lot of beers back out the next 4 weeks or so. Amazing. Amazing. Fantastic. Thanks so much for your time. Cheers mate. Thank you. Talk talk. Cheers.