{"type":"rich","title":"Episode 53: Exploring Grief, Legacy, and her Personal Museum: A Conversation with Dr. Karen Kramer","version":"1.0","provider_name":"Blubrry","provider_url":"https://blubrry.com","author_name":"Things That Matter with Martie McNabb","html":"<iframe src=\"https://player.blubrry.com/?podcast_id=151825380\" title=\"Blubrry Podcast Player\" scrolling=\"no\" width=\"100%\" height=\"230\" frameborder=\"0\"></iframe>","height":"230","description":"It was a sunny afternoon when Martie McNabb welcomed Dr. Karen Kramer onto her popular show, Things That Matter. The virtual studio was set up, mug in hand, and the air was tinged with curiosity and connection. Martie, ever passionate about the ways our c","thumbnail_url":"https://www.showandtales.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/Podcast-Cover-Yellow.jpg"}