Welcome. Welcome to the Terry
and Jesse show here on Virgin. Most powerful radio. It looks like my
headset is not working, but that's okay. I'll get another one. I wanted to
just say that Jesse's out today. Matt Arnold will be joining me today
here on the show. And as you know, he has a, a show here, Mr. Engineer,
my ear. I can't hear anything on it, but we're gonna have a great
show. I'll tell you why. Uh, I got some great news to tell
you about the, oh, there you go. Now I can hear it. The, uh, country of
Hungary. This is a great, great story. They are making it more difficult for
anyone to get an abortion in their country. And as you might have heard,
well, some time ago, Matt. Oh, welcome. Matt Arnold, joining us for Jesse
and the Terry and Jesse show. Hey. Terry. Matt, this is great news hungry. The country of hungry says that
women who have at least four children, okay, pay no
income tax you myself. There's an incentive. But you, Matt, can you imagine
right now this is a joke, cuz Matt has more than four children. . Can you imagine the money
you would have today? If you were in that country and you
had your family and you didn't pay any income tax. Wow. Yeah. It's it's a, it's. Incredible. Yeah. It's incredible. Yep. That is,
you know, and, and really incredible. I, in, in today's atmosphere, what a,
what a, uh, a blessing, but this, this shows you there's a government
that, that sees the demographic winter. There's a, yeah. There's a government that wants their
country and their culture to continue to exist. Yeah. Because how do you survive if you don't
have citizens? Give me a break. Yep. And also we're gonna cover some stories
that show us that we're making progress in regards to, uh, the
cultural war. Number one, uh, story is that the porn industry is feeling
the heat and the intensity from many groups, Christian groups working to shut
down the evil empire praise. God, see? Yeah, this is, what's
so beautiful. And man, the reason I bring these up is because
I wanna give you the story that I just got before the show, uh, Senator Graham introduced a bill
to band abortions nationwide after the 15th week of the baby cup,
forming in the mother's womb. Now this is a first down. If
he can get it through now, there's no way he's gonna get it
through. But you know what, Matt, here's my point. And you,
and I can appreciate this. And I hope our listeners can just
because we're not successful. Doesn't mean we can't keep, keep
trying. Oh, of course. In other, in other words, Matt, this guy at his exit interview will go
before the judgment seat and say, Jesus, I tried. Mm-hmm. does that make sense to you? Oh, amen. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And you know what we have in our good
Lord himself, the, the greatest example, because you know, I, I don't think anybody
on Calgary that day was saying, wow, what a great victory. And yet it was. Amen brother. Yes, sir. And
we're gonna also cover, uh, the German Sentinel way. That's really
a fiasco. We'll talk about that. And um, you know, a good story again, about how Christians are
standing up Christian Baker
find for homosexual wedding cake refusal. Remember that back in
mm-hmm four years ago, what's still getting close to going back
to the Supreme court and we'll get into that. And my favorite topic
of the day is Matthew. It's almost 800 years to the day when
the practice of perpetual adoration of the blessed sacrament began. And I think we should know that
because this is our answer to everything is be, is our love for
Jesus and the Eucharist mm-hmm. amen. We got so much more to talk,
but before we get into that, and also I wanna keep referring to
Cardinal Burke's comments where he called you. Me, everyone listening, faithful
Catholics must remain in the church, hold Bishop's accountable to the
apostolic tradition. Hey Matt, you've been saying that for a, a long
time. Yes. I've been saying that, but you know what, Matt?
You're not a Cardinal. Nope. Sorry. Not no. and, but it's nice. To, and, and thanks me to God.
You can thank your lucky story. Amen brother. Well, lots to talk about,
but let's get some soul food in us. Today's um, feast day, I've
talked about the Saint of the day. What a great Saint Matthew. This is
today's gospel Matthew or excuse me, Luke chapter seven, verse 11 to 17. All right. Jesus journeyed to a city called
name and his disciples and a large crowd accompanied him as he drew
near to the gate of the city. A man who had died was being carried
out the only son of his mother. And she was a widow, a large
crowd from the city was with her. When the Lord saw her, he was moved
with pity for her and said to her, do not weep. He stepped forward
and touched the coffin at this, the bears halted. And he said,
young man, I tell you arise. The dead man set up and began to speak.
And Jesus gave him to his mother, fear, seized them all. And
they glorified God exclaiming. A great prophet has arisen in our
midst and God has visited his people. This report about him spread through
the whole of Judea and in all the surrounding region, thus far the
words of the holy gospel praise. To you, Lord Jesus Christ. Amen. Your thoughts, Matt? Well, like, you know it,
interestingly of course, and I, and I find this all the time is that it
ties into what we were already talking about. Mm-hmm
and that is that, um, that death is not the end. Nope. Death in fact for us
is, is a victory. Yep. And there's something that St Paul
said that, uh, I had a hard time. I'll be perfectly honest over the, you
know, my first 20 years or so as a, as a convert. Sure. Uh, to wrap my mind
around to this. But as, as I get older, now that I'm 60 years old
um, um, St. Paul said for me to live his
Christ and to die is gain. Amen. I mean, here's a man who was doing some
good work for the church. Yep. Right. And he, he had an important apostle and
he had a, he had a powerful ministry. He, you know, all throw on all the, uh, post Vatican do adjectives that you
want. Yeah. And he was saying, yeah, I, for me to live his Christ, but I'm looking forward to today
when I meet him face to face. Well said, well. That's, that's where the
rubber meets the road. That's. What it's all about. And, and, and you can see too, that
at, at the time when this happened, the whole world was dead in sin. Yep.
This is that when his son was dead, like now, you know, and
being dead, if you're dead, what can you do to help yourself in
this world? You know, nothing. Right. He couldn't even ask for help. Right.
But, you know, we see illustrated here, the compassion that God has
for us, because it's the
same for us that he would, uh, the second person blessed
Trinity would become a human being, would become a man in order to raise
us to life with him. Yep. You know, and also that, uh, the dead man, he,
he didn't earn a second chance. Okay. Any more than we can earn our salvation
or, or that we deserve our redemption. Right. But it is a gift that we can accept
and praise God for and be thankful for and to, uh, you know, just determine to use our
lives in order to do his will. Well said. Today's Fe day is St. John
Caso, Bishop, and doctor of the church. You know, there's an interesting
connection with St. Ambrose. Uh, I know, you know, this, Matt, but
it made me really realize, we gave this story about
St. Ambrose and the, um, emperor who was wanting to come in to the
church after he did a terrible deed of about 8,000 murders of
women and children. And, uh, Ambrose said, no, you need to repent. You
can't even come into the church. Well, who influenced him? Are you
ready? It was St. John Criso. So this is just birds of the
feather flocking together. Mm-hmm now he was born
in Antioch, Syria, and was given, uh, a, the, uh, the name golden mouth,
because this man could preach. And mm-hmm , I think of
the only one that I could come up with, someone like that was a Fulton sheen. now I'm there were
other saints that did this, uh, that had that gift. But man,
uh, we sure could use more, uh, Bishop sheens and St. John Christos
in the church today. Amen. All right. Well talking about Bishop sheen, let's
bring the smartest guy full. She ahead. This is interesting. He
says Matt, Bishop sheen. And I just wanna say
publicly tomorrow. Yes. Matt and I are gonna be meeting
folks. Are you ready for this? Some of the radio stations around the
country have asked me and Matt together to put together some quotes of Fulton
sheen. We'll call it full. She ahead. It'll promote Virgin, most powerful
radio too. And just talk about it. Some of the quotes, because
they're so good. And the want, like a two or three minute thing.
What we, you hear, right? Virgin, most powerful. Here's
the quote of the day. God has given different gifts
for different people. Well, I think we all agree on that. There is no basis for
feeling inferior to another, who has a different gift. Once it's realized that we
shall be judged by the gift we have received, rather than the gift, we have not one who has
completely delivered from a false sense of inferiority. You know, Matt, I, I think that's a great advice for kids
and for us too. Mm-hmm , you know, how many of your kids, I
mean, you, we both raised our kids, but I've had my kids come and
say, you know, Mikey in school, he he's like, he's got a great arm,
man. He's the greatest pitcher. Why can't I pitch like him? yeah. And you know, it's because you
don't have the arm. Mikey has. Okay. Right. Yeah. You, but you need
to find out what the gift is. The one that you did receive. Exactly. He can't play third base like you either.
Yeah. Everybody has special gifts. And I think that's the key from
what I can tell in life is, uh, one of the, uh, great spiritual
writers, father, Jordan Allman, spiritual theology. He said,
he said, this God's will, is tied into the gifts
he's given to you. I. Thought, oh, that's beautiful. I thought. It was beautiful, Matt. Yeah. And it
touched me as a young man. I said, I just need to connect with
what gifts he's given me. And. That's right. Knew. That. So I think it's great
advice by Fulton, Shane, Matt. When, when we, yeah. That's, that's why a new generation of people
need to hear that new generation of Catholics need, uh, need
this, uh, wisdom they. Do. And again, I, I know I'm a, I'm a,
I'm been preaching this for a while, but someday maybe not in my lifetime, we will have Saint Bishop sheen. Mm-hmm,
, it's gonna happen. It's just a matter of when, because
his writings are stellar and uh, more people who listen to Fulton
sheen say to me all the time, man, he's amazing. How does he
do this? Well, remember, we're gonna talk about perpetuate
adoration. This man spent 60 years, every single day of his life
before our Eucharistic king. You think Matt has
something to do with it? I. Do. I think maybe it is. Yeah.
Yeah. I think maybe. All. Right. When we come back from our break, Matt Arnold sitting in for Jess
Romero on the Terry and Jesse show, I'm excited to have you here. I'm excited to be able to tell you a
good news story about a Christian Baker who was, uh, fine for standing up for their Christian
faith and things are looking good because if God's grace and perseverance, we're making progress in this
cultural war. Stay with us family. You're listening to the Terry and Jesse
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That's Matt Arnold . And uh, Hey Matt, I, during the break, I got
a text from one of our listeners. It's kind of interesting.
He said, thanks. Uh, for talking about the country of hung,
I'm migrating from Canada to Hungary. And I said, wow, well, that's great.
But here's the interesting note. His father left east Germany to avoid communism. And he migrated
in the, uh, late eighties, early nineties to Canada. And,
uh, his comment in the Texas. Now I'm leaving Canada because
of Marxist movements in Canada to go to Hungary who, which is
a communist country at one time. So it's just interesting. Full circle.
Isn't that ironic than he? Yeah. Yeah. More, more things change. Yeah. Yeah. That's it. All right.
Here's the good news story. Christian Baker fined for gay. Like I
never used the word gay. Sorry. I'm happy. I'm gay. Uh, ha homosexual
wedding cake, supposedly, uh, almost wedding it's refused to take
case back to us Supreme court basically. Um, what's happening in this article,
Matt and I'm, I'm happy to say, uh, the Colleens, they were Christian
parents of five children. They launched their
little sweet cakes, uh, bakery back in 2007 and Oregon,
just east of, uh, Portland, Oregon. And basically, um, you know,
they're happy to serve everyone. They, you know, they make these cakes and they,
they, uh, they said, you know, but a, a homosexual couple filed a lawsuit
against them arguing that it was unlawful discrimination because
they wouldn't make a cake for them. They, they, they disagree. And it's been going to the courts they
lost at first and they were supposed to pay $135,000 that they don't have
mm-hmm and damages. And then finally, uh,
through legal things, they tried to cut it down to
$30,000, uh, months later, but in July of 22, um, they're still going at it
now in September of 22, which is now announced. They once again, have called on the Supreme court
to review their client's case. And I suspect Matt, this is my
suspicion that they, the, the native Supreme court
is set up right now. I think they have a good case for
their first amendment rights of free speech to be right implemented here.
I could be wrong, but you know what? I give these people credit, Matt, that
they've persevered what, eight years? Seven, eight years of fighting this. Right? Yeah. Yeah. And you know that
that's not a, that is a costly, oh, big endeavor. Not, not just
monetarily, but emotionally and, and spiritually as well. Oh yeah. You
know, and that's one of those things. I remember this case, we all, I'm sure
everybody, everything does that, that, that, uh, that these people were
targeted that's right. You know, they, they were, they were a Christian
Baker. They, they, the, the couple went to them purposely
in order to make this ruckus, you know, either to get them to
compromise their principles or to, um, or to be the target of this
lawsuit, you know, and, and to make an example of
them point is though, I mean, this tells you where we
are regarding the courts. There's no way this should ever have
gotten in front of a judge. Yeah. Yeah. Really? Because it's like, you're talking
about discrimination. It's like, well, okay. If they were the only baker in a
world , you know, and they said, no, no, no cake for you. That would be
one thing. Yeah. You know, but, but it's, these are people it's, it's a
matter of private enterprise. They have a right to refuse service to
anyone for any reason. Exactly. And, and, uh, and it's not like they couldn't go
down the street to a baker that would've happily baked the MC MCCA.
In fact, uh, as I recall, they weren't even from the
area. Yeah. They were, they had, they had to go looking to find a
Christian Baker to, to yeah. You know, refuse to make the cake. You know, Matt, this brings another
story in my own life, as you know, and our listeners know, we have
funerals here at the chapel, hundreds of them a year.
And, um, one particular, uh, couple came in an elderly couple
and, um, uh, they were, um, people of color and, uh, they thought
that maybe we would discriminate. And I won't say what, it's just, you
know, they were right. Minority, get it. Yeah. And so, you know, I said,
fantastic. I love it. You know, everything they, they would
say to me that was, uh, gonna be concr as some kind of
discriminatory thing, I'd say, oh, no, that's great. I said, um, um, you
know, uh, the truth has no color. yeah, there. You go. So I said that, I said, the
truth is the truth. People are people. And so we don't discriminate
against anybody. So anyhow, they, they put their deposit down and, uh,
they wanted to have their funeral. And then the next day, you know, I put their money in the bank
for our ministry and they, it was a stop payment on the check. Uh, oh. Hey, when that happens. Yeah. And,
uh, so I called a couple up and, uh, they said, well, we decide we don't
want it, your services. I said, well, that's okay. But you know, it cost
us $35 for the, the ministry to, for your, your check that you
would, you please, you know, we consider it and pay
that fee since, you know, you wrote the check and she says,
oh, you can go pound sand . So the point I'm making
to you is there are people that go out and try to set these things. Up right there. Yeah. These, these were people that were actually
hoping that you would make a fuss and were disappointed when you didn't. Yeah. Yeah. Well, they canceled
their check. Okay. Let's uh, let's do this Matt and the next little
topic that I have. And, and again, this is just, I won't read the article,
but I'll just say, this is again, Christians standing up
to the culture of death. And I think pornography is the culture
of death. Mm-hmm, , it's ruins so many people's
lives and family life. And people say, well, the porn
industry's so big, look on the internet. And it's, you know, two thirds of the
internet is pornographic stuff. Right. And how do you, how do you
knock down Goliath? Well, um, what's happening is people
of good faith are saying, we're gonna Sue them for what they do, and we're gonna take 'em to court and
we're gonna show the court what they do, and then let's see what happens.
And so they're making huge lawsuits. And it's a, it's part of an
international effort to dismantle. I won't say that they,
but at the porn industry, cuz I'm trying to say
the name of the place. Right? Sure. So. The point of it I'm I'm making to you
is they've targeted mainstream companies that have partnered with these groups. Ah. Now you're talking, you see how they're
doing it now? Yeah. Yeah. So that, that's a, that's a good news story for me. And I'm just grateful that
they're doing this. And again, how does that come back to, uh, our responsibility is Christians
to stand up for the truth. This is what Cardinal Berg, this is
what the Catholic faith is all about. We have to sanctify the temporal order. Mm-hmm how do we do
that by keeping our mouths quiet? No, we have to speak up. And
sometimes Matt, you and I, we have to take it on the chin. Right? Well, that's the thing you gotta
kind of, it comes with the territory, doesn't it? Yes. Yeah. The squeaky wheel
gets the grease. It also, you know, the, the loud flag gets
the S water. right. Matt, before we take, I wanna take a couple minutes because I
don't think a lot of people know about your show and I usually wait to the end, but I have a good thing
I wanna do at the end. Can you just share right now a little
bit of what you do here at Virgin, most powerful radio, cuz I think you're kind of behind the
scenes other than one week, one, one day, a week radio show. Why don't you
share with our listeners what you do? All right. Well, you know, I,
uh, thank you Terry. Um, well. I appreciate what you do and your wife.
Yeah. Well, forget your better half. That's right. Betty and I, my wife,
Betty and I both work for the apostolate. You know, we, uh, she maintains
our website and does the, uh, uh, takes care of the app and all that stuff. Mm-hmm and does all the
updating and administration on that, which is, um, you know, very necessary
thing that, uh, we benefit from. And, and I, you know, I'm, I'm writing
and doing, working with graphics and, you know, doing the thumbnails for the shows every
day and all that sort of thing. Yep. Um, as well as the occasional, uh,
special project, when things come along, that my talents are suited for, uh, it falls into my lap and rightly
so amen. But the, the program, no nonsense Catholic. I just, you
know, I, I, as you recall, when I, when I first, uh, uh, came to Virgin
most powerful radio, I was doing a, a daily show called happy hour. And I was, you know, trying to happy hour, not
because it was an hour of happiness, unfortunately, that would've been great.
mm-hmm , but, but more to, uh, you know, give
the idea that, um, you know, that we would have a conversation, uh, the listeners and I like you would have
in a pub over a pint, hence happy hour. Got it. And then, uh, you know,
because of my other duties here, it became difficult to, to
manage the, the daily show. And I went to once a week and then we
had a name change a couple of years ago. I changed the name of the program,
did no nonsense Catholic because I'm, you know, I am at heart and, uh, primarily
my occupation, the catechist. Yep. I teach the faith and, and I've
realized that, um, that's the, that's the most important thing,
you know, you have to, you, you don't major on the minors.
You gotta, you've got to, uh, uh, put time and effort into the
fundamentals of anything. If you wanna, if you wanna be good at it, if you wanna be a good ball player or
good musician or whatever, you gotta, you know, you gotta play
the scales on your violin. You gotta run drills on the football
field. You gotta go to batting practice. And even though those are very basic,
uh, elements to the sport or the, or the, uh, you know, activity, whether you're a musician or
a marksman or whatever, uh, it's absolutely necessary. And
how many people Terry go to, you know, they, they take a catechism
class for their first, holy communion. Maybe they go, uh, back for confirmation
when they're 14 or whatever. And that's the last of, of the
religious education they have. Yep. That's one of those things.
So many times, you know, I've run into people that have fallen
away from the faith, you know, and, and we have to face it. The majority
of, of Catholics are away Catholics. It seems like these days. Exactly. Um,
and you know, people say, oh, you know, don't talk to me about that. I, I had
12 years at Catholic school. Right. That's a, that's a classic
thing. I survived Catholic
school. They will tell me. Yeah. And, and, you know, and
that's the thing. And I, I took a, actually a leaf from your book
and said, you know, I'm asking, 'em a couple of basic
catechism questions. Sure. And then when they can't answer,
because they never can. Yep. You know, I will say, Hey, you know, maybe you haven't really rejected
the Catholic faith. Maybe what you've rejected is
your childish understanding
of the Catholic faith because you never, uh, you know, developed
an adult understanding of it. Yep. Maybe you don't know what you're
missing, you know? And, uh, and sometimes that plants
a seed and, and people, uh, find a Pearl great price, Matt, you
know that. So that's what no nonsense. Catholic is about. Awesome. It's on every Wednesday after
the Terry and Jesse show, Matt, this reminds me of a priest who said
something similar to what you said, his name is father Gerald. And he is a chaplain for
co Catholic colleges. And he said this as I get to know
all these awesome college students, more and more, one thing
is coming in crystal clear, they're not interested
in weak Catholicism. There you go. They want the truth. They want
beauty. They want goodness. They want tradition. I think every
one of those things your show does. Well, you know, thank you. I I'm, I'm
certainly that is our, that is our intent. Yes, for sure. As. We're shooting for, and, and
father says, they want community, they want authentic masculinity.
You get that in that show too. They want authentic femininity. Of course they want heaven
and they want other souls to get there with them. You know what I think that's so awesome
that this priest is there working with young souls. This is one of the
reasons Matt, I think the church, uh, you know, even with all this
persecution that's going on when, even on high levels of the church
saying that, you know, we're, um, as Cardinal Burke says,
you know, don't, don't, uh, ever take it when they say that you're
a traditionalist. Uh you're you know, you're, you're, you're, you're into, uh,
tradition and that's a bad thing. No, no, that's a good thing. We call it
the perennial teachings of the church. Mm-hmm and Cardinal Burke
made a really strong statement when he said this, uh, we, this was just two weeks
ago when he said that Cardinals, we says, we need good Catholics to correct their
bishops when they've spoken or acted against the faith in cases
where the faith is betrayed. Even within the church itself, it is even more important for her
to insist on Catholic doctrine. Do you see what you just do? What
you do on your show on Wednesdays, in practice, they must understand that they are not
free to do so that they are obliged to defend the Catholic faith in these times.
And this is really powerful. He says, obedience can never command us to do
anything that is against our faith and good morals. Remember that?
Remember that we come back, we're gonna talk about correcting
the bishops in Germany as lay people, call 'em out and say, wait, this doesn't square with the
perennial teachings of the church. And in two 12, we're implementing
it. Folks stay with us family. They're listening to the
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sitting in for Jess Romero and Matt. Thanks again for taking
the hot seat for today. Aw, always a pleasure to be
here too. Hey, Matt, this is something that you and I have
watched for the last couple years as CIL way of, of, uh, getting these
Catholics and non as a matter of fact, non-Catholics anybody can come in
except, uh, traditional Catholics. Okay. Uh, did I say that? Yes, I did. This
is, uh, what's happening in Germany, this sad Donald way. Uh, the
assembly, their fourth assembly, um, came out and basically the
female co-president of the German Senator away doubles
down on abortion support. So they're basically saying that the
Catholic church needs to lighten up and changes view on something for 2000 years
that we thought that life is sacred. It's kind of almost, you know,
laughable in one sense, Matt, but it's not laughable
because it's actually, it's actually taking
place as we speak that. Well, you know, Terry here's,
let me, let me give just for the, for those who maybe haven't
been sure following this, uh, the way we have just a little
background, first of all, as a catechist, I can tell you that, that the, uh, the
changings of the church that, that, that God, and, and they don't, the doctrines of the church have something
in common. They're immutable, I mean, change. Okay. So that's number
one when they're saying, well, we're gonna change this doctor. We're
gonna change that doctor. And it's like, well, no one would be,
uh, uh, obliged to, uh, OB obey that because it's nonsense on
its face. Okay. Just take that, you know, good point. And actually we can go
and talk about something else now, but . No, that's true because you're absolutely. Right. Take speaking. Yes. But you know,
the thing is on September the eighth, just a few days ago on, and, and don't think that they didn't
realize that that was the naivity of the blessed Virgin Mary. They had their
vote, the German bishops and the, uh, and the lay wing of this son nodal path, and a majority of the bishops
endorsed this statement. And it was a statement that would've
put the German episcopate on record in favor of changing the church's
teaching on sexuality. And like you mentioned abortion. Sure.
Now, now they didn't, it didn't pass. And some people are saying, oh, it's a
great victory, but you know, but I'm, I don't mean to be a pessimist,
but I'm a realist of course. And I can tell you that they didn't get
the two thirds, majority of the bishops. They did get the two third
majority of the lay people, but they did get a majority
of the bishops. They only
missed it by five votes, Terry. And Jesse, but Jesse, sorry, Matthew they're as Monsignor Harris
just told me this morning at mass, they're sending that off to Rome and
saying, this is what we are agreeing. This is what we're gonna do,
whether they got the votes or not. Yeah. Bishop bating said, look,
when I go to the C in October. Yep. I'm I'm bringing the statement with me.
Yeah. Yep. For, for debate, whether, yeah. It doesn't matter that
it didn't, that didn't, uh, quite pass muster who cares and, you
know, that's yes. Particularly telling, right. Yes. And, and that tells you something about this
whole Sy nodal thing in the first place church, isn't a democracy and they're not, and they're not interested in what you
think. I'm sorry. They're just not. And that I'm mean to jump in on you. I want you to talk on that because
I'm convinced, and I, I mean this, that, this is basically an agenda. They have it already preset.
So no matter what anybody says, this is the outcome. And I'm, I'm sorry to have to say that about
our church teaching right now, but. What they can, well, you
know, we're not talking about, you're not really talking
about the church. You're
talking about global leftism. Yeah. I agree. With you when I was a kid, uh, a
younger man in the 1970s. Yes. Um, I remember during
the Carter administration, do you remember what he was doing?
He was pushing for same sex marriage. He was pushing for universal healthcare.
Yeah. You know, all of this, all this, you know, and, and the, the agenda
hasn't changed, not one bit. Oh, they kept going at it. You know? And so, I mean, Clinton tried,
remember Hillary care. Oh yeah. Right. And, and fell short of the
mark on that. That's right. But they kept going at and, and pushed for homosexual marriage and
wound up having to sign the defensive marriage act instead. Yep.
And then just, you know, just whatever 10 years
later, 12 years later, you see Obamacare happening and same
sex marriage. And it all happened in, in California. We defeated proposition
eight, which would've, you know, and, and it didn't matter. The
courts overturned it. Yep. You know, which is why, Hey, elections matter
because those people appoint judges folks. Exactly. You know, anyway, the, the
point is that, you know, I think a lot of Catholics haven't
difficulty understanding what ity actually means, you know? And I think
Bishop bating offered us a clue. Apparently it means that a small Cadra
of Catholic activists should be allowed to lead the universal
church. , you know, E even though they come
from a country where, where church attendance is an absolute
free fall and hundreds of thousands of Catholics are right now,
formally renouncing the faith. That's right. In Germany every year. Yeah. Trust us to fix it. I
don't think that's, you know, that they're the best qualified, cause
it sounds absurd, but, you know, and, and this is not the problem is that there's an
Axiom in law that silence be tokens, consent. Yep. And, you know, I mean,
even when pop Francis, you know, grateful that he gave him kind of
a mild rebuke of that Sonal path, but he didn't scold them for undermining
the faith. Right. If you recall, he cautioned them because he
said, you're moving too fast. Yep. You know that you're trying to get ahead
of the universal church, which sounds, I mean, it, it could at least be construed
as him saying, Hey, we'll get there. You know, you just have to
wait for everybody to, to
get on board. I, you know, please, God, that's not the case,
but if Francis really disagrees with, you know, where they're going with
this, he's yet to say so, well. Let me give a. Quote from, and so, so we, like you said, this is part all of this in context that
we have to raise our voices and say, you know what? We're not
gonna, if you do that, we are not gonna follow that. Well, I'm gonna give Pope Francis, uh, a recommendation from one of the
previous popes. He's a Saint Saint Pope, Felix II. He said, said not to oppose error is to approve it. Not to defend truth is to suppress
it. And indeed the neglect, the confound evil men, when we can do it is no less
a sin than to encourage them. Now I can say it, Matt, a previous
Pope said it happens to be a Saint. Right. But I imply that to
me, not just to Pope Francis, I Terry Barber, Matthew
Arnold, our listener, who are, you are listening right now. We all have an obligation to speak up
because the most merciless thing we can do is let someone wallow
in their sin. Right. And I'll tell you something, Terry, I'm
gonna, I'm gonna make a little plug. Yeah. Uh, for people to, to jump on board of this every
Thursday at the sacred heart chapel, I know that you guys gather, we do. And I would be with you if I didn't
live in a different county. Yeah. Yeah. But you know, we, uh, you gather to pray for a priest to pray
for the bishops to pray for the Pope. Yep. Cause, uh, you know, the, the church
is going where the clergy takes it. Right. They, they are steering
the ship. Yep. And, uh, and so we need holy
bishops and holy priests. And the only way we're gonna get them
is if we storm heaven with prayers. And so one of the ways that we raise
our voice is to raise our voice in supplication, absolutely. To the almighty
cuz he's the one that, uh, you know, is gonna be, he's the
ultimate answer to everything. And you know, Matt at the end
of every Terry and Jesse show, I bring up Fatma because the Fatma
message is a reaffirmation of the gospel. And remember our lady said, souls are going to hell because
no one is there to pray and make sacrifices. Imagine this,
we have Catholic priests, I think about 36,000 in
America right now mm-hmm. . The op and we take a priest on. Everybody
has a, uh, they don't, you don't, they don't know you're praying for that
priest every year, but you, you, they, it changes every year.
Mm-hmm . But the
point I'm trying to say is, can you imagine at the exit interview, I keep talking about this exit interview, but can you imagine your
prayers when you end in your life and the prayers that you prayed
for the conversion of certain people, or, uh, you prayed for
a priest to be faithful, or you praised for a Bishop are the Pope, those prayers have been
effective, but you don't see 'em, you won't see them until the end of
time. When you, when you meet our Lord, I believe this Matt, from
the bottom of my heart, that a hail Mary and I know St.
Louis Deford says this, you know, it's very powerful. So I would encourage our listeners when
we talk about the problems in Germany or other countries, or even our own that the first
reaction is a prayerful reaction to pray for them and their conversion
and the pray for the conversion of the world. Because, uh, you know, we
know from our lady of Fatma that, uh, and our lady of good success, who you, we talked about her yesterday on
how she predicted a lot of this, these problems going on. But the point of it is our lady's message
seems to come out every time there's a crisis in the world. And right now I believe that the fathom
message is so appropriate because it's expiration, it's reparation, it's get down on our knees
and pray offer our rosaries, our masses for the conversion of sinners. Think about this back in 1917, when the children saw a
vision of hell yes. And, and, and that many souls are
going to hell, and this was 1917. Now this is 1922. I, I, I get that,
you know where I'm going with that? Don't. You? Yeah. Yeah. The counter is spinning. Exactly, exactly. And so that's why we need to be
praying mostly in reparation and expedition for the sins of our own sins,
but of the world. And that way, right. Everybody can participate in this
great work, not just Matt Arnold, Terry Barbara, on the radio.
It's the, my little, uh, grandson came in to the studio just, um, three minutes before the show picked up
the crucifix and he kissed it and said, I wanna bring, uh, Jesus,
the crucifix to grandma. She's gonna kiss the crucifix. Now,
Matt, you can say, well, isn't that? Isn't that just precious, but you
know what? I think that bless. I think our Lord is so pleased that a
two and a half year old, absolutely. That crucifix up kiss the crucifix. And he already understands
redemptive suffering cuz we've we, his grandparents were telling,
offer that up little bow for the, for the salvation of souls and you see, he can be participating in the great
work of the church at age two and a half. Right. That to me shows the beauty
and the brilliance of Catholicism. Amen. That was a Beau that's. Yeah.
That's I, I have nothing to add to that. . Well, you should add something, Matt, cuz you've got them the same thing
with your kids. Well, absolutely. And I know that, I. Mean, you know, you, we, we talk
about these things and I mean, you know, that I'm a, I'm a medievalist
and, and the absolutely the dominant, uh, philosophy of the late middle
ages, you know, was realism. Yes. And that's something that, you know, I
think maybe people think that's maybe, oh, that was a dark and superstar. Yeah. It's the opposite. Now we live in a dark and space. Exactly. You know? Um, and yeah, more people just recognizing
that reality includes, uh, the invisible world. Yeah. You know,
uh, that, that, that God and heaven, I, I was reading an article recently
about an atheist who said, you know, who asked the question? He do argument
at absurd him. Where's heaven. There's lots of satellite stuff
there and nobody's seen it, you know, and it's like, well, you
know, that's not a childish question. It's a childlike question. Where is
heaven? But there is an answer, you know, that, that it, that is, um, you know, it's outside of space and time
that's right, right. That, that's why the satellites don't see it.
Mr. Atheist, man. And that's something, that's something that your two
and a half year old, uh, uh, grandson understands, uh, instinctively through his
baptism and the grace of heaven, grandparents like you and Mary Danielle. Well said, we come back. We're gonna talk about what took
place 800 years ago, throw adoration, stay with us family. Welcome back to the Terry and Jesse
show to join the conversation. Call 8 8 8 5 2 6 2 1 5 1. Now here's Terry and Jesse Terry. And Jesse, actually Matt Arnold
sitting in for Jess ver Romero. I think it's kind of ironic, but Matt,
thank you so much, Matt. This is a, an amazing, uh, story.
And before I get it, I wanna play a little clip of Bishop
Joseph Strickland, a few minutes from now, cuz he, his show starts right after the
Terry and Jesse show today. Cuz I just, I really like to promote our
shows and especially the Bishop, cuz we have a unique position here
at V NPR having Bishop strickly come on every week and
then what a joy that is. But I wanna bring this up
because September 11th. Yeah, we had our September 11th tragedy
here in America, but this is uh, marking 796 years ago. Perpetual adoration of the blessed
sacrament began in eing on France, a practice that's now spread
through the entire world. And I just think it's so beautiful that
that has happened, uh, in, you know, what's interesting Matt, this
went on for a long time, uh, until 1792 uninterrupted until the chaos of the French Revolut
French revolution. Yeah. And then years later was at
eight plus, uh, 37 years later, uh, in 1829, thanks to the
efforts of the gray penance. A group of several fraternities
started it back up and what's beautiful about Eucharistic
adoration for us, at least. And here in the 21st century. So many young men that I've
met in my 60 some years of life have said, that's where they found
their vocation to the priesthood. Mm-hmm , I've met, I've met people and you know
this cuz it's in my book, a lady who was before
our Eucharistic king, because I told her to go when she
was a high school student in my class to visit Jesus. If you ever have a
issue with an unplanned pregnancy. And she went into that chapel and she
told me that she felt that our Lord was calling her to keep the baby.
So miracles take place. Why? Because it's Jesus Christ, his body,
blood soul and divinity of him, Matthew mm-hmm ,
he doesn't get any better. And so this is spread all through Europe.
Uh, it's come to America. I remember, and I still have a plaque
in our sacred heart chapel. I still kept it promoting 40 hours
showing every Catholic church in the diocese of LA where they
would have 40 hour devotions. So perpetual adoration for those 40
hours and people would come and pray. And I think that the evidence is clear. The fruit of adoration is a great love
for our Lord and savior Jesus Christ. And no question, you know, um, back
in, I think it was 2018. Okay. Um, I went out to, uh, speak at holy apostle
seminary. Oh Crowell from Connecticut. Yeah. Sure. And um, you know, I, the, the
priest that asked me out there, father bill McCarthy, uh, God rest us
holy passed a couple years ago. Yep. Um, or a year ago. I'm not exactly sure, but
um, great, wonderful priest and just, and just, uh, worked himself to the
bone, uh, for our good Lord. You know, his ministry was, he had
the energy, um, you know, at 80 years old that I didn't, I
didn't have at 40 . Yeah. I can say that right now, but, uh,
anyway, uh, and, and some of that had to, to do with the time that he spent in
front of the blessed T I'm absolutely convinced, but, um, one of the
seminarians, there was a, uh, a monk, uh, who was, you know, um,
uh, going to become a priest. He had been ordained a deacon and he
was one of the Knights of the holy Eucharist. Speaking of the holy
Eucharist, the, the group from, uh, in Irondale Alabama there that's, you
know, connected to mother Angelica's, uh, order. And he said to me, I, I was
talking about our good success. I was talking about, you know, as bad
as things look, there's, you know, there's good stuff
happening in the church. If you look for it and Eucharistic
adoration, you know, right. Probably number one on
the list. And you know, I I'd mentioned how many chapels there
are that have Eucharistic adoration and, and there's at the time this is 2018. There were over 800 churches in the
United States with perpetual adoration where there's something in front of the,
the pleasure segment, 24 hours a day, seven days a week. Awesome. And,
and he said to me that based on, you know, their research, that there were more people in
the United States making a holy hour in front of the blessed sacrament
today than ever before in our history. That's awesome. And, and you know, that, that reminds me of a Fulton sheen quote
about the power of prayer before the blessed sacrament, talking about the cloistered men and women
are doing so for our country than all its politicians, it's labor leaders,
it's army it's Navy put together. They are toning for sins of us. All.
They are inverting the just wrath of God, repairing the broken fences
of those who sin and pray, not rebel on a tonot as 10,
just men would've saved Sodom. Andora so 10 just saints
could save a nation. Now that's why I think
adoration is so special. Matt, I wanna play a little clip
and get your thoughts. Mm-hmm Bishop Joseph
Strickland will be on the next hour, right after the Terry and Jesse show. But I wanna give people a
taste of him because you, if you haven't heard him this, he speaks
like no other Bishop I've heard of. So let's play the clip
and give your thoughts. Sadly, priest and bishops. I
haven't heard too many deacons, but they're probably in it
too that are saying, oh, this word of God has been misunderstood
or needs to be reinterpreted. That's not what the church
teaches. Nope. Um, the, the basic word of God. Yes. We
can understand it more deeply. It's always a mystery. Um,
and as I continue to read, I think a lot of the I've always said
that a lot of the herses from the very beginning, they're trying to make it
easy. They're trying to make it simple. Mm-hmm they're
trying to humanize it. Yes. And instead Christ came to
demonize us. Yeah, exactly. I mean, we're not God, but he wants us to
share so fully in the life of God. And we only do that. If we're willing to be changed by
him and not change him to fit us, we just see too much of that going on now. And we've gotta know him in word
and sacrament in sacrament and word, it's always going back and forth. Like we, as simple as we are human beings, we are multidimensional as well. Yeah. That's one of the things that
is the great Catholic truth that we are good. Mm-hmm
yes, we're sinners, but body and blood, soul and humanity. We are a goodness, an expression
of the goodness of the Lord. And we're called to flourish in
that to overcome our sinfulness. And we're hearing too much in the
world today, even from the church. Oh, don't worry about sin. God's
merciful because God's merciful. We're obligated to turn
from sin to repent of our sins and to think we can, we can have all of the mercy and
have none of the repentance. That's, that's just not reality. Amen. We're, we're fooling ourselves and too
many in the church today and certainly in the world, but even in the church where
we should know real mercy, mercy is hard. One by the Lord, as he goes through his
passion and suffers, deeply dies on the cross and
then rises from the debt. How do we unlock his mercy for each of us, we go through our own passion. We die to sin and rise to his life. And if we shortcut that we lose it, we, we lose the power just as Christ.
Didn't shortcut it. He was divine. He could have just said, oh, I'll
save you without dying on the cross. But he poured out his,
his last drop of blood. He completely sacrificed
himself. We can't compromise. And there's, there's too much compromise in all
kinds of ways in the church today. Wow. Wow. You know, see Matthew,
I hear him every week, but when was the last time you
heard a Bishop talk about, you know, don't when these people tell you about
sin and say, don't worry about it. No worry about it. When he talks
about compromise. No compromises here. I just find that here at VM
P we've got a jewel here in, in Bishop Strickland. Amen. You know what Terry,
uh, it, it strikes me mm-hmm, that a lot of people, a lot of Catholics prior to
the second Vatican council, they thought, well, you have to believe everything that church
teaches and you have to adhere to it in order to be saved. Right.
And after the council, you had an awful lot of those
same Catholics thinking, uh, oh, apparently, uh, the church doesn't
have a monopoly on the truth and, and all Christians are saved and
probably everybody else. Yeah. Now the question is, did the
second Vatican council teach that? And I under, you know, the answer is
no, it did not right. right. But, uh, that was presented. And I just
wanted to put in a plug next month. Yeah. In the month of October, we are gonna do a one day conference
at sacred heart chapel, you and I, and Mary Danielle, that's
true. Talking about, you know, will the real Vatican
too, please stand up. Yep. About what's actually in those documents
versus what people have claimed is in the documents. And, you know, because
that's the thing we, I, I, you know, go to a, a parish here in orange
county, uh, uh, a diocese in parish. We have a traditional
Latin mass. Every Sunday. We are so packed that there's probably
a hundred people or more outside. Wow. That's. Every week. And it's, you know, I
mean, we were in there. Gosh, I, I, I nearly faded because of
the, all the carbon dioxide. Yes. That church was so full of, of
people. It's like, oh my gosh, there's not enough oxygen in here, you
know? Yeah. Uh, but the thing is, it's, it's not like those people
are coming from outside. Those are not all a bunch of former
Baptists who are suddenly traditional Catholics. They're they're Catholics
who are voting with their feet, who are leaving, um, the, the, the celebration of the new mass for
the celebration of the old mass. Now I'm not saying that the
old mass, uh, is, is gonna, is necessarily the feature that
that's, what's gonna, you know, the church is gonna look like in a
hundred years. I don't have any, you know, the first idea, what I do know though, is that Catholics are
hungry for Catholicism. That's right. They're hungry for a non watered
down presentation of the mysteries of the faith. And, and, and that includes an awful lot of
young people and people of every color, you know, if, if, if from
our parish is any indication. Yep. That's great. And, and so I, you know, first off I wanna encourage people if
you're in Southern California. Yeah. Uh, go to the V NPR website will, I'm
sure it's not up. It will be soon. We'll have the, the dates and all
that. Sure. Uh, for that conference, it is gonna be on October the
10th. If I'm not mistaken. That is correct. Yep. So make plans to come and join
us, because I think it's gonna be a, a, a day of blessing and a day of, um, eye opening information
for an awful lot of folks. Actually it's October 8th, just to. Okay. October 8th is a lot more
October 10th, only different. You know what I love about Matt and I
did you guys have a good time with us? I sure did. This hour flew by, as
they, as Gary would say, oh my gosh, there it is. Matt, Matt. Um, the
quotes from, from Bishop Strickland, this is what he does every single
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question. I'd asked. Yes. What state should we be
living in brother? We. Should be living in the state of grace. You got the right answer. You, you did it. And thanks again for filling in for
Jess. Jess will be back tomorrow. And I wanna just say, may God bless you.
And don't forget what our lady said, Hey, those are going to hell because no one
is there to pray and make sacrifices. Let's make everything a sacrifice.
That's what our lady told the children. And we can tell you as it's the truth, may God richly bless you and your family. They tuned for the Bishop
Strickland hour next. Oh,