Hi, everybody. Welcome to No Story
Sacred. If you've never listened before, basically we're four siblings who grew
up talking about the art of storytelling. Now that we're adults, we're still
talking about it. And I we're, and we're inviting you to join
the conversation. I'm al I'm Alex. And my theory is at the actual true villain of the Legend of
Zelda series is the Goddess Den. Dun, dun dun. I mean, yeah.
Why, why, why did she give, uh, power? Come on. Yeah. Yeah. Yeahs sensing. Flame. . She, he created the world.
Sah wants to end it. Yeah. That's my kind of
goddess us. Uh, I'm Pippin. Oh. Yeah. No. Hey. Yeah, yeah. Listen. Hey, listen.
I just had a really good idea. I wanted to go for it. . Well, I'm Brendan and
it's tears of the Kingdom, right? Uh, yeah. Yeah. It's about, oh, uh,
and, uh, uh, they're taking a up, a trade as a tailor. Yeah.
And, uh, you know, so, and sewing the jeans of time. Find finally going to explain,
uh, why den like lookalike. Cuz they're talking about
jeans, right? Anyway. Yeah. Oh. Oh. Taking one bad joke. Stitching it
into another one. So, two speak. . Thank you. I'm very crying myself. . Good times. Uh, I'm piping, and
I'm not saying it's the Zai, but it's the Zai. But what if the Zai pip. And so what are we talking
about here today, Al? Today we're going to become the
Oracles at sci-fi once again and speculate about the upcoming
game, the Legend of Zelda, tears of the Kingdom. If you want specific content warnings
about things we may talk about, check out the show notes
on no story sacred.com and . And really, we're, we're
doing this, this like, like four, like four months out,
out where, uh, we, we. There are no spoilers here. No spoilers. We're just completely
making things up as we go here. Really? Oh, no. Different
than any other episode. Oh, I forgot to mention, um, Kat isn't here because she's been trapped
by ancient forces under the ground. Yeah. Yeah. We, yeah. We saw the, um, just vanish into the dark darkness below. Yeah. I think they've been hit by an
ancient curse, uh, to forever repeat, uh, an end endless cycle
of death and revenge. Yep. Yep. I'm sure it'll be fine. Yeah, it's fine. Don't worry
about it. . That happens. . The product
description from nintendo.com says, in, in addition to the
vast lands of high rule, the latest entry ins the s story
Legend of Zelda series will take you, will take you up into the
skies. Look forward to links, massive adventure , look
forward to links, massive adventure, starting again, and the
legend of Zelda, tears of the Kingdom, the sequel to the A Legend Zelda Breath
of the Wild Drops for Nintendo Switch on May 12th, 2023. And. That's it. That's all we know. . Yeah. I mean, half
that was Product Plug . Yeah. Yeah. And those. Been like two, like two minute trailers. Yeah. Like, uh, mostly seeing, you know, new fashion for Link. Uh, uh,
definitely. Mostly, well, yeah. A bit of a Grecian ro like a Roman style. Oh, yeah, yeah. Links really
into wrestling now. He's
a Roman wrestling. Good. Oh yeah. Hey, listen, you know, he got out from his a hundred
year power nap, saved the kingdom, and, uh, joined the
gym. Yeah. Hey, I mean, when you think about it, Lincoln
breath of the wild, you know, lost his, his his friends,
you know, still saved Zelda. Yay. But still, he's having to
do a lot of life rebuilding. He's doing some soul searching. I mean, does a game ever establish
how much of len's memory comes back? I think we see all that
comes back . Yeah. I guess. But like, I'm wondering how,
how, oh, uh, weirded out, tell when she's traveling with that's, um, how different this person is from
the links that she wants new. Yeah. This thing. Seen some shit. Here's the thing, Zola also
probably seen some shit, right? Because she's been like, what? Fighting the forces of darkness for a
hundred years. Holding the back. Yeah. They're. Sleeping through that shit. . Yeah. So there might be, you
know, if they're feeling like, uh, going some deep character
development, you know, we're, we're going into this already. If feel like doing some
character development stuff, there could be a little
bit of resentment there. Their friends and their family are, are
dead, have been for a hundred years. Yeah. Yep. That's gotta be, uh, sad. Yeah. Know Zelda's dad's
dead. Lyx Fish fiance is dead. Yeah. Yeah. . Um, we, we've, you see
from the, uh, we saw from the, uh, from, from the concept art that, uh, he ha think had a sister and his
one presumes a granddad, and. Probably both dead. Oh, am I still alive? Hi. Yay. And, uh, Rav and, uh. Darya? No. No, no. Uh. Oh. Uh, what's her head? Uh, Perra. Yes. Uh. So some scientists. . Yeah. And Sidon Fish. Hask . Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah. I, I hope he shows up in
this sequel and is still. If they love us at all. . They'll give us the hot fish. one hot fish
platter coming up. . Ye . Oh. No. So I, I feel like with, uh, tears of the Kingdom, although, uh,
we'll, we'll get into more of that later. I feel, I feel like, uh, I feel
like with Tears of the Kingdom, with some of the stuff we've seen, we're, we're gonna be kind of tying into
a little bit of Zelda Skyward sword, right. You know, with the,
the Sky City and all that, right? Yeah. Looks like. I mean, I, I've, I've
never played Skyward sword. You should. I know. Listen, I should play LA Games, but it's entirely possible that
there'd be some skyward sword. Um, meant it would only make sense, uh,
cuz Sky Word's in the fucking name. But also I think some of the
gameplay demos that they've had, had the, um, uh, tablet,
the Sheika Slate, um, does, uh, some time stuff. Mm-hmm. , which, you know, has been in the Zelda
series in the past as well. Uh, it's, that's not the Sheika estate
that links using in those trailers. What the fuck is he used? God damn it. . Uh, you may have noticed that his arm got
fucked up in one of those trailers. I I did notice that he
had a fucked up arm. I didn't know it was
the same thing doing it. Uh, the, it seems to, it seems like one they're really leading
hang heavily, and two, they're uh, they're inspiration
and, uh, of, uh, princess Mank. Hmm. Is that what inspired it? Like, uh, you can definitely see a lot of visual
elements in Breath of the while, all that are similar to, uh,
to you, the works of Miyazaki. Yeah, I could see that. Fair. Enough. I. Mean, how Old's Moving Cast
is gonna be in the background. Oh, man. We need to add, I mean, add. I mean, the Castle lifting
up Yeah. Castle in this Guy. . I mean, we need to add Manke
to, uh, to the list at some point. Cuz that's such a good movie
and so many things. You can. I, I mean, we wa we Pep and I recently wa
watched a House's movie and Castle Oh. With someone else. And I had, and, and I had to stop having
an opinion about, about it. . With someone who does not necessarily
know the way we act around stories. Hmm. Uh. Like, because I was like about
to let's engaging and conversate [inaudible] this movie, Hey. Saw like, oh, you're criticizing, criticizing movie
now. Like, I'm not criticizing it. we're discussing. Um,
yeah. So, so this movie like, or this game , um, yeah. Yeah. A a a cursed arm element
does seem like a good way to have a time pressure
on the story without having an actual time pressure. You can
take your time doing whatever, but like, to make this story go forward, you can't have the main
character afford to take it easy. Like, they, they have a goal they
have to accomplish. And if the goal is, Hey, I don't want this freaky
arm of mine to kill me. It's got evil hands. nicks. But like, at the same time, Hey, this freaky arm of mine is
granting me superpowers. Well, I'm, I'm using it to get rid
of it, so that's cool. You sure it won't have opinions? I'm sure. I'm sure it's
fine. It's fine. Um. It's time for me to see
with Eyes unclouded by Hate. Yeah. We need to watch that. Ugh. Put it on the list. On the list. Um. Well, I'm gonna add it to
the list. Okay. Uh, it's. Probably already on the list. . Uh, uh, I think we should, uh, give the world's briefest
summary of Breath of the Wild. Go for it. Pip, I'm all ears. Link wakes up, uh, with no Memories after a perine a
hundred years with the goal given to him by, uh, a ghost Go defeat
Gannon. He's haunting the castle. You can see it over there on the
horizon. He, uh, makes friends, frees some ancient, uh,
mechanical artifacts from, uh, the evil control of Gannon.
Uh, brings some ghosts, uh, of his dead friends to
rest. Uh, and by also. Well have them come help
out in the battle kind of. Yeah. They're with, they're with him in Spirit. . And they get together and
they finally defeat Calamity Gannon, who has been, uh, terrorizing
this post-apocalyptic landscape, uh, for a hundred years. All while not wearing any pants. You can get him pants if you don't
wear pants. That's a choice you make. . Oh, yeah. And, and so, you know, at the
end you defeat, uh, cle it again. And, uh, and Lincoln Zelda walk away
having to now figure out what to fuck to do. . Yep. Now that their purpose
has been fulfilled, uh, and everything that they
knew is gone anyway. And Lang's like, Hey, I founded a new
town. And she's like, wait, what? . Also, I got a home. Uh, you
can crash for a while. I guess. I've got a couch. You can,
you can crash there. Does. He have the couch? I. Now he does. He's gonna build one. He's. I I've got a table . Uh. You'll be fine. I've. And Lionel for, uh, if
you need it, . Also we can go to je o Town.
Don't worry. I know A weigh in. . Uh oh. That's
something that she's not gotta let, uh, let him forget. Um. Oh, well if we actually, we do
know from on the, from the, uh, diaries that that wasn't
the first time they, they think things gone into Jaro Town. Hot Cha cha cha cha. He's very pretty in the jarou outfits. A belly bouncing outfit, basically. It's very cool. And then we get the
trailers for this new game. Yeah. The first one we we got was, was, Hey, let's explore some caverns.
Zelda's got a haircut. Looking cute, because that's what you do after an
emotionally devastating event of some sort in order to feel that you have
control in an uncontrollable world. You cut your hair, we've all been there. Indeed. It, and then they find a
dead body looking cute and ooh, hey, you know how they kept on
call it Colgan and in the fir in, uh, in the, in Bfu.
Wild. Yeah. Weird, weird. That that is a, that is a, that is a weird. Distinction. A weird
distinction. Distinction. Huh. Why'd you give a title to it? . Almost. It's kind a similar or to the
titles who he gave to the rest of the Bostons in the game. The, like
the water black cannon or the, or firelight cannon. Hmm. The white. What? Oh. Fine. Don't worry about it. So different aspects of G So the one
we just defeated was an aspect of G. Oh. So, so there was a
story reason, and he, that last foul pass fell
underwhelming. . Yes. Damn. That's the reason. It was on purpose. We, we are good at this. So honestly, I feel like any final ballot was going
to feel underwhelming after the pure, uh, exploration aspect of the
entire rest of the game. Yeah. Yeah. Well, like, well,
there's a cal, well, Freddy Cal Gagan and then in Hi was all awesome. Um, but then the, what was it called? The Dark Beast ga in or the, or the j the John Giant
fucking boar cannon. Mm. Yeah. Yeah. That thing in the field. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, well, it was like,
shoot some arrows at it. I guess. I, I I feel like that was
more of like a boss fight, but more of like a de ma as a boss fight. Yeah. That, that, that
actually was just a story beat. . Yeah. Yeah.
Which felt, felt a little, fell a little flat, but,
yeah. Can, can't Oh, but that's not what we're
talking about today. No, no. Uh uh. Like, I, I joked about
it in my intro, but like, I still feel like there's tears
to the kingdom, but, you know, it could honestly just be talking about
tears of the kingdom too. Like Yeah. We can work tears through time.
Two meanings. Yeah, I know, right. At the same time. And it sounds. Fake coly. And, uh, and the Japanese, he's, hes our known for her
are known for her doing, doing that all the time. No, see, that can't be it. See, what I'm kind of wondering as well as
I'm kind of speaking about this out loud, is that like, we know
Link gets a case of the, the evil hand issues
mm-hmm. . Yeah. What do you think happens to Zelda? Has she actually been in
any of the traders beyond that first one where she's
in the cavern with think. Uh, just that fir first one where
she's in the cavern, eh, and then she, it gets vanish. It, we, we've seen some murals with some, um, uh, figures that certainly
look a lot like Zelda, but that's some speculation that
we bell be getting into in a, in a bit. . It could be Zelda could
be the goddess. They. Could, could be someone else. . It's almost like
they look similar on purpose. Almost as a, almost as Azel is, is a divine reincarnation of, of, uh, of the goddess highly of herself.
What, what the mortal incarnation. Yeah. Yeah. That's what the, what I went. Um, this game's probably good and
Putzel in peril again or something. Um, or. There there are, there are lots
of people hoping that, uh, we, that we get some, um, uh,
dual game play, but, uh, Nintendo doesn't like like,
uh, shaking things up that much. True. I mean, outta left field
here. But what if like, she kind of, you know, is like
possessed mode and is like, reckon things up. I mean, that's fun. We you
got taste of that out in with a, with a puppet, Zelda. Yeah. And, and it would be a fun
twist on the whole, you know, cycle of terrible. Mm-hmm. . Although you, you know, there's another thing I I was thinking
about as we were talking about like, oh, calamity again and water
blight G and all that is like, what if what infects link here in tears of the kingdom is actually
something that infected Gannon. Mm. Uh, are you referring to demise? Something like that? Uh,
just the, the force that, you know, basically either empowered Gannon
to destroy the world or maybe even like, affected how Gannon, uh, functioned from that point on. You know, a blight is like a force in
nature rather than just malice and evil. But the two together, who knows? I mean, Gannon is a victim in all
of this as much as anybody else. . Yeah. He's trapped in the, the and endless EO cycle
that they've got on going on too. Yeah. He's got his role to play. It. Would be interesting if a takeaway in this Zelda is like a breaking of the cycle. We, we always is want on,
on, on the, that cycle to be, bro Logan, I coveted that wind as suppose. Yeah. Oh. Ooh. Idea, idea, idea. Hmm. Uh, evil hand and issues, the thing , uh, possessing things. So Arm it is got the con
covering up suppressing, which probably suppressing it. But what if that hand start
or talking and it's a fragment of, of can, of canor
can endorf or it's a consciousness. What if it's not an evil hand? Yeah. What if it's like,
like, like ahaha, I'm evil. And if you give a, give you
bad ideas, like, and also, wow, look at this majestic landscape. I've almost forgotten how to the feeling of the wind. Yeah. I covered that. Ooh. So, uh, okay. Wait. I'll, I'll support that Alex, but
only under one condition. Yep. Uh, the hand has to come up and be
like a hand puppet. . Got, okay. We're doing this as a podcast, but I need you to know that I lifted up my hand and during that bit,
during that bit, just now, I will. Who's doing hand puppet motions? Alex? Yes. Same. . Nah. . But no. Okay. Wait, wait.
Yes, I, I've had a thought. Uhhuh. . Um. Here comes a thought. That might upset me. . Um, so, uh, the Legend Zel series jumps
around through time, right? Yes, it does. Yes. Um, and we've seen the beginning of the
cycle and it's not unreasonable for us to see the end of it. That's true. It's not unreasonable. Oh. To say that you've seen
in the end multiple times. Hmm. There is also, uh, a thing where there's Delta
timeline has split into three. Yeah. Um, any theorized out there who
does not acknowledge the
third timeline is wrong and should feel bad at themselves. Ha. . I see it every once in a while. I'm like, I can't trust anything you say if
you can't acknowledge that third, uh, timeline. But semantically . But what if, uh, what happens
in breath of the wild. Stays in breath of the wild. Stays in breath of the wild Oh. Or in
tears of the kingdom, or in this story. Um, because it's also rare for direct
sequels to happen in the Legend of Zda. Yes. Yep. Uh, it's this and like Maura's Mask. And Zelda too, I thought. Right? Uh, yeah. Adventure of Link. Yeah. That's also a sequel.
Uh, Phantom, our, our, uh, is a direct ex sequel, uh, uh, and by extension. And so is Spirit tracks next to that . Uh, well, that. PERTs part of my point, but whatever. So. Actually there are several
whole sequels, uh, fuck off. Anyway, we'll ignore that part then. Um, but so speaking spirit track,
let me try to get my train, my thought Train back. Train. Of train of thought. Train of thought. There we go. Uh, but it is possible that part of the
things that tears of the Kingdom can do, uh, and I feel like I saw this
theorized at some point, uh, is it can bring the different
timelines back together because this is all made up. We can
make the rules of time whatever we want. Yeah. Um, wily, wobbly timey, whi whiny. So it can be bringing those
three timelines back together, and it can be bringing the three
aspects of the triforce back together. Not just like the
pieces scattered out, whatever, but the three pieces that are
keep getting reincarnated, bringing them back together
into harmony with each other, through, uh, Gannon, gand,
doff possessing Nick's hand, and not necessarily the evil part, but like the part of him maybe that
wants to be free again. Hmm. Uh, so it's not even necessarily trying to
influence him in any way, it's just, just giving him another
boon. Um, and, you know, there could be an aspect of Zelda
that he takes in, uh, as well, uh, that we just haven't seen yet, because we've seen literally
nothing of this cake. So are you, you're saying that
links other hand also, uh, also hand Puppet, but at this time
wearing a, a tiny blonde wig. Wig? Yes. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Well, cuz also one of the, ima
part of the imagery in a of time, uh, is that they see their aspects of the
triforce at which part they are on their hands. Yeah. Uh. Oh. We don't think we ever see
that happen in Breath of the Wild. There's no like triforce
shenanigans, right? Uh, no. Uh, actually. The Mystic is not really involved. Like, uh, we don't
actually see the, that, uh, the, uh, the Hampton thing thing
much anywhere else. Uh, we've got audit in, uh, we've
gotten our creative time. We, we've got it in Wind waker and the Oracle games. Oh, and Twila do I Apprentice has the, uh, has a simple appearer,
but I think that's it. Hmm. Uh, but it is a known thing. It is known. We also just
thank give about link's, uh, glowing Evil hand. One thing I regret not opening
with for my intro Mm. Is, uh, not saying, uh, this hand of mine glows with
an awesome power , it's Burning Grip tells me to defeat you. I mean Yes. But also. Shining finger sword. Yeah. Uh, links, whatever links got going on
with manipulating time in
tears of the Kingdom, uh, helps my bringing the
timeline together. Theory. Yeah. Yeah. I'm, I'm all for like, unifying timelines and all that because
I think it's just fun to have that happen. Like you had a great rift
happen due to magic shenanigans, and part of me thinks that like the, the universe or whatever craves
stability and when you're talking to like timelines of like
the world and all that, several thousand years isn't much at
all for the universe to be like, Hey, let's snap this back in place. Please, uh, hero have an evil hand fix this. Yeah. That, that actually bring,
hangs me us to the other trailer, or which was, uh, some
of Link link, uh, think, uh, adventuring around,
but also McKinney, uh, those murals that we saw. That no one can agree about. No . Uh, what's the most commonly
accepted interpretation is that these are murals of the, the giant mural is that
of high, of the gut, of possibly the Goddess
Hak. And so we see the, the God Hak and what we assume is Zelda, uh, in Entwining hands, uh, and hands Hands. Uh, and we also who, uh, see the, the, in the logo of the game, uh, a take on the robbers symbol. Yeah. Another unending Cycle thing. Yeah. And so one might be able to suppose that, uh, we're also, who Velda is, is going to reunite with her divine self. Yeah. Cause she was
having trouble with, uh, with that Right in breath of the wild. She, she was having trouble
with her ceiling powers. Yes. That's a big plot point. Yeah. Like these powers, uh, all
princess sells have always had. Uh, I I don't think it's insignificant
that in the trader with the, the murals, uh, they're, they're
sort of, if I recall correctly, I didn't re-watch the trailers. Yeah. We're who we're definitely not
doing the this on the spot. What, what. What, uh, there's the
image of the, the large. Figure. Female looking figure, uh, sort of
face standing up and facing outward. And then there's also the figure
of someone being lifted up. Yeah. Or falling. I don't think or falling down. Well, cause I th the way their hair
was not as if they were being lifted. True. Uh, you know, by their chest. I don't think it's insignificant
that those two figures, uh, one of them could be Zelda or Jalia. The other could be Zelda or Gannon. Yep. Which I think says something about the
sort of interchangeable nature of any of these people. Or Hak uh, myths, uh, change and, uh, and get reinterpreted. Yeah. Cause that's my favorite theory
about the Legend of Zelda timeline, whatever. Uh, is that all of it,
every single story is just, uh, part of an oral tradition of a
land we haven't actually seen. Yeah. Which would explain why, you
know, locations keep changing, why there are occurring characters,
but why also they change. Yeah. That's like, like the, like and the mud and, and the
merchant beetle like, wait, wasn't the merchant auntie and the
wasn't that merchant and your, uh, ocean story. Yes. Yes. Uh, or you know, oh yeah. There are
the Rudo the Fish people. No, no, no. Now over time they changed into
bird people. They're rudo. No. Well, actually no. They both exist at the
same time. Don't, don't question it. Don't worry about it.
Don't worry about it. . Uh, so if it's an oral
tradition and, and regional stories, it makes sense. , we cut to the end of
Zelda, tears of the Kingdom, and then we see a grandpa reading
a story to a sick grandchild. . Yeah. Hey, maybe as you wish. Maybe next time you can come
over and read that story again and as you wish. Oh, see here is what, what I was just thinking what Princess
Zelda learned was that every single time he went Ha , he
actually meant I love you. Well, and see this just needs the
obvious question of where
are the kissing bets that grandpa is sleeping out? Oh. In the unedited Zelda story,
big that wasn't told so much. Kissing. It was a kissing game.
Which fun fact about, oh, Aino Time. . Go on. You know, it's, oh, the,
there are a number of, of female characters who
are interested in Link. Mm-hmm. . Mm-hmm.
. Mm-hmm. . They cut some idea from, uh, on the game came, but, uh, kept the, the Fish Princess wanting to marry you. I mean, cuz that's just course
just good, wholesome fun. Oh. Yeah. I mean, considering, uh, Talon was
like, Hey, you want marry Malon? Huh? Just, I he came, he was joking. Yeah. Or was he. Well, also Link is seven
for Perv the Game and then mentally seven for the other part. . . Maybe a more rational Mind probably
pointed that out. And it's like, okay. I guess. And also also did, and she wasn't, she you flirt her flirting with him
and when, and he was 10, whatever, and writing it out. , gosh, fun.
Pull over here. . I saw the movie Big and I
thought it was aspirational. . Someone didn't like
the Shape of Water. . No. Clearly someone on the other was Wild
Hill Team loved the breath of the Shape of Water. . Yeah. . . He and the fish are in love Mifa.
Anyway, she's great. Fuck yeah. Mifa. Um. Uh. Uh, um. Kat as you're hearing the listening
to this for or, uh, the edit, let, I want you to know that, uh, we are already like so far off the rails here, . Kat, I want you to know that
link and the fish is Cannon. for a lot of
people. It's true. Yeah. A lot of No, it is Cannon. . Ha. She was making him a, a
wedding, a set of wedding armor. That's true. Uh, which. He accepted. Well, do we? No, I don't think,
I think he, he got amnesia, uh, before he could accept it. Okay. But one, he kept it after, uh, and she felt secure enough in
their relationship to have made. It. And she knew his sizes. Yeah. Fit him perfectly. Yeah. Like. A glove. Yeah. Ha ha. Uh, anyway, it's cannon. Everyone can fight me. Um. I mean, the bird bro becomes the best
man. Or would it be the, the Goran? Uh, it would, uh, Durick Oak would be a
best man and Al would be, he, he, uh, best would be best rival. Ah, I feel like Ravalli. Okay. Ravalli, uh, sits in the front
row and glares at everyone. Uh, during the who, uh, does anyone hear. Have something to say? . Ravalli is the one that you have on
hand in case there's any potential weird ex drama that could
happen because, you know, you kind of see like the, the motion
outside the chapel. You look to Ravalli, Ravalli looks back. He
nods. He quietly leaves the. Quiet quietly. . . Well, he, he makes a point to exit out. The of He's quietly leaving. Yeah. He, well, he quietly leaves during the
ceremony loudly. Talks about it after. Oh, yeah, yeah. There we go. I like that . Because he hates link. But God damn it, no one's gonna ruin this. his special day. No. No one's allowed to listen link no one to ruin your wedding
but me. I am going to, I'm going to make a toast
now. And it is going to, uh, be embarrassing for you. No one's that I hate my
rival, but me. I have dips. . I'm now going to, uh, make an
embarrassing toast of, of, of standing up for ipa. She, she, he doesn't know any embarrassing
stories about you. Oh, no. . . Uh, although, you know, that Ravalli probably respected the
hell out of of me. I mean, come on. Oh yeah. You gotta respect your healers. Yep. Uh, this might actually lend, lend some grins to the corrupted
hand actually talking to you Bit is that when it comes to these open
world games, you have to have like, some extra like, kind of like source of knowledge outside
of yourself to help guide you the player. Mm. Yeah. So like
in Breath of the Wild, you had like the Chika slate reacting to
things and helping guide your way and, you know, upload your map and all that. Yeah. Like, I'm wondering, like, do you think we'll get like a similar
like in universe explanation for guiding you? Like that? Will
it be the evil hand, like, glowing in the direction of the
east? We should go east? Yeah. Uh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I can see that. I can
see that. Uh, I'm, I'm going . I can be real with you
guys. I love the compan. I love of though those
companion characters. Hey, look, listen. Even Navi. INGOs. , I have a theory. It might be
bunnies, it might be bunnies, but no, so in the in breath of
the wild, you know, the, the part of the larger structure, uh, especially the thing that was
guiding Vek and, you know, providing the plot such as it is,
uh, was an ancient technology. Yep. Uhhuh, . Uh, what if Tears of the Kingdom
brings back the magic aspect? Because theoretically, you know, the
technology we already know about, you know, we've got all that.
But the magic that ties into, you know, the larger cycle,
uh, that's happening, uh, why calamity again existed in the
first place. Things like that, uh, this thing hasn't really tapped into. Yeah. Yeah. So it could be, you know,
the [inaudible] going, Hey, asshole , uh, now
I've got a mission for you. Mm-hmm. . You're good at bringing magic
back, young man . Here. Well, what, what are
you gonna, well, how, oh, how it's called the bombo
of Medallion . Ooh. I mean, in Breath of the Wild, you stopped the apocalypse, basically. Like you do. Uh, it happened a hundred years ago, but the threat was always
looming and stopping. It was stopping the world from being be
rebuilt because the danger was still out there. The guardians were around,
uh, monsters were still around. Uh, so it sort of kept people
from expanding and growing again. So tears of the kingdom can
be trying to rebuild after that. Yeah. That's another
thing, thing I, I, uh, was thinking about. Oh, like, like what we also like, uh,
what about side missions of, uh, like, uh, rebuilding settlements? Like, like pretty much Terrytown, but for, or the entire map? Yeah. Terry. Colonialism. Terry, uh, the Terry Territory, the Territory. Oh. Fucking wow. I love it. Um, but. Weren't we going to
rebuild? Hi rule. Listen. No. . I mean, I, I will say the thing that I
weirdly do not want to show up. Uhhuh . Uh, which is a Zny. Right? What's a Zny? Okay. The. Zny Alex, we go. Okay. So, you know, those, those, uh, mysterious ruins you
occasionally they come across. Uhhuh . With the sort of, some of them have sort
of dragon heady things, or they're the, it's like the more swirly
characters of writing instead of, uh, the Heidi in writing. Uhhuh . And it was like a weird out the way.
Maes is Stone Maes Uhhuh . Yeah. One of the favorite, favorite periods is the Mysterious Zone. I people who, uh, once inhabited at, uh, in parts of the land of high
rule, they were, are probably magic. They, they probably, they, uh, uh, they probably worshiped
dragons. Uh, the, they probably, they were the origin of the, uh,
Barb Barbarian armor set. We, we don't know. They're
a mystery. Literally. Z is, I think, a, an anagram of, of mysterious in, in Japanese. Uh, I think, uh, like the Zo and I get mentioned as a
thing that exists in like a paragraph in one of the random Zelda encyclopedias. and Zelda theorists clamoring for anything latched on. Like, anything that can't be
explained otherwise they go like, what's [inaudible]. [Inaudible] [inaudible] What's,
what's [inaudible] [inaudible]. Some Zai. It could be. Zai, could be Zai. Uh, insert meme of the ancient
alien guys, but it's Zai. That's what I was trying to
go for in my intro. . Ah. Um, but yeah, so, uh, because I think it'd be
super fucking funny. Uh, I'm hoping that Zoe and I are
nowhere to be fucking seen. Ha. It's entirely possible that they'll,
they will play a part. I don't know, . I just hope not. Oh. And also it was already happened. . Yeah. Fair. Yeah. Uh, it might be fun to, uh, oh, uh, encounter or a new, like a new old race,
race of people also. Oh. Also do some side-eye
implications of, of, Hey, hey, high roll. How, how'd
you expand so much? Hey, high roll. High roll. Who else
was living here? High roll. I have another theory. A game. Okay. . Well, technically. Um, so, so. So. The timeline fucked up, right? Yep. Uh, especially if you throw the Doni into
it because they've existed there before all of this. But we've
seen a ton of timeline. They've literally never been
there before. Yeah. Um, what if, uh, breath of the Wild
is the actual, you know, thing that exists within their
universe that that is, you know, the high roll as is actually
exists in such as any of it exists. Cause it's all made
up. All the previous Zelda games. Tying it back into my other thing are
the stories they tell themselves cuz it's been a hundred years and the hero
disappeared, uh, and the world ended, uh mm-hmm. ,
but they're still, you know, folklore and stories, uh, that
happen in those hundred years. Also thousands of year
beforehand. Years beforehand. So, you know, the Zelda games we've seen so far are
the oral tradition that exists within Breath of the Wild. That is my theory. Here's a, here's another
theory. Breath of the wild. And Kingdom secretly take place before Skyward Sword. That's
right. It's another her, her secret prequel. Oh, baby, baby. Can. We just see the cycle beginning again? Yeah. Nice. The cycle Oh. Remains unbroken. Hmm. What if this is all
a prequel to Wind, waker, and Link causes that flood to happen? No. We do know that Wind waker
or is directly a after, uh, after, uh, the adult
whole timeline of, uh. Oh. We fine. Yes. There are literally
murals up of, uh, sorry. Of the, of the stages is, uh. . I, I like my theory, uh, way better than the fucking Zini . Oh yeah. Fuck the Zini. Oh, man. Um, but yeah. Oh, so I guess links got
weird vials on his outfit now. Don't know what's up with those. . Uh, some them are
suspecting that, uh, it's, uh, yo uh, magic charges. Yeah. Cause Link doesn't really do
magic in Breath of the Wild, does he? No. I mean, he, I mean,
technically he did, but that wa that's the, that was
really the other guardians doing their, doing their thing. Their magic. Yeah. Yeah. Uh. It would be interesting if this game
brought back the Triumph Forks, uh, , tri Fours Ha . Uh. Actually you have the Triforce wasn't
really mentioned at all in Breath of the Wild. Nope. Yeah, that's a
major bit of Zelda lore. That could be how he fixes the
evil arm issues. You know, . Like, oh, oh, tri, oh, beautiful tr big bu
beautiful tri force, uh, on Fuck My Arm on Fuck Cairo
and bring back my dead buddies. Well, don't you. Isn't the thing that if you put
together the pieces of the Triforce, if you bring them all
together, you get a wish. Yeah. Yep. Well, there we go. And, uh, and, and that happened
in a link to the past, uh. And it was like multiple
things. Link did too. I mean. Uh, he, he wished for Un Okay of the land
of high Rule and to bring back his dead uncle. Hmm. I don't think I approve
that last one. Don't, don't wish people back in the dead. Don't. Worry. Nah. He's okay. He's okay. Are. You sure he is not a fucking
Reeb? Did Lin create re-add? I mean, there weren't any reed before or, uh, or, uh, linked to the past. God damnit. . Uh, you know what, no one
asked . I asked. All right. All right, all right. Way
to go, pepper. What else is there? Uh. What did this tornado show
us? Literally anything else? There really isn't much else
to go on. No. Let's be honest. Half of this episode was
us just making up bs. I mean, this, if any episode. Only half. I was being charitable. I. I will say, uh, if part of the
action happens up in the sky, I almost don't look forward to that
because that means I can fall from this guy and die . Oh, that's the hell. A parachute. It, it, it's one of the things that, uh, I don't like in games
when I can fall into an abyss sort of thing. Legit. Uh, something we do know, uh, they patented, uh, Nintendo patented a method of like a, of shooting arrows
while free falling thing and like a, like a, a game design thing. Huh? I look forward to sucking at it. Yeah. Uh, they also patented, uh, a Moving Fruit who saw, saw object, saw solid objects while, uh, like when you're standing underneath, say a floating island, and then you get up on top
of it by swinging, by moving. Through. I don't think I like that either. Uh, yeah. So, you know, we've got some room to work with, uh, a lot of room to work with. Uh. There. It's gonna be a whole ass
video game. We've seen two minutes. Less. Yeah. Yeah. It's gonna be fun. Oh. Yeah. I look forward to. It. Yeah. It could be fun. Could be fun. Could be fun. I think it's gonna be a lot of
fun. I'm looking forward to May. Yeah. I'm been trying to figure out if I wanna
pre-order a physical copy or a digital one. Uh. Hmm. Uh, the, uh, did you see the
leak of the, uh, of the, uh, special Sweat special
audition switch to go with it? No. Mm-hmm. ? Uh, well, uh, and. Oh shit. I mean, it is pretty, it's honestly, it's a bit
too yellow for my tastes. Oh, that's cut. Uh, that,
that's, uh, gold and uh, the light's coming off weird of
it. Weird in since it's a leak. Mm. But also, uh, I'm not buying a whole last
new switch. Well. Yeah. No. Until it's actually
an updated, uh, hardware. Ooh, that's a good .
That's bit of speculation. Do you think that, uh, around that there's going to be
also an announcement of a switch of the, uh, either a switch upgrade or
successor around the time a breath of Wild comes out. Like that it will come out at the
same time? Or just announcing it. Uh, announcing it. Uh, think it would've been a smarter business
move to have them both come out at, around the same time. Like
so that people go like, oh, if I want to really play the
new Zelda game in the best way, I should get the new system. Yeah. That's some speculation and that, that might happen. Uh, also, but also named tattoos really secretive, but their systems weird. . What? I know, right? Yeah. Uh, ran, what do you think? I think it's much more likely they'd
probably save it for an announcement at like, one of the major conferences. Like, like J d C or, uh, maybe
something later on in the year. Hmm. Legit. I, I think they'll just
have Zelda be Zelda. Fair. Just let Zelda be Zelda. Let link Zelda. Yay. Playable Zelda. When. All right. Okay. I. All right. Can we think of anything else? I I think we're, uh,
circling the drain here. Do you think there are any Zelda theory
videos about the design of the fancy switch? Yes, there are. Are they? Awesome.
Love it. They pointed out how, how, how, uh, someone pointed out,
oh, how the design, right. This design features a lot
of, uh, concentric circles and almost like ripples and water. Whoa. Hmm. Hmm, hmm. Uh, and the weird
right angles of the left JoyCon. Like looking like the, uh, infection
going on on it. Length's arm. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Uh, and how
the Tri four symbol on the dock, uh, almost looks like a bird. I mean, it's, oh, it's
kinda looked like a bird. Yeah. But still. It's a bird thing. . Listen, a that isn't a Zai
thing. I don't know. What is. ? Zai Zai. Hashtag Zai. All right.
Yay. Uh, all right. On that note, uh, before
we head out here, uh, do you guys have anything to
show or is it only just me? Uh, I'm sure, certainly you mean I'm certain Kat had
something they'd like to show, but, but, uh, they're not. Here. They're not here right now. So p. Demonn Fighter sucks. I mean, you should totally do that. Let's see. I think it has
been announced that, uh, Knight's Weird will be
coming out in the summer. Yep. Yeah. End of August. Yeah. So, uh, that's a book
written by our parents. So. One, one that they're
particularly proud of. Yeah. Originally released back in the
nineties and getting a reprint today. So Hazah. Hazah as part of the
Tour Essential series. Yeah. So it's essential that you read it. Exactly. Um, and, and I have
my, uh, usual improv shows. Um, gonna try branching out and doing
some more stuff here in the coming year. So, um, we'll see how
that happens. Whoa. Uh, nothing really to
announce on that end yet. Uh, yet. Well, um, will you
announce, will you drop your, uh, uh, Netflix special announcement and here,
here on our podcast first? Or are you, are you, you, uh, can
leave us in the dust. Full on media blitz? Haha. All right. All right.
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Cat's actually doing a heist. Done. Okay. Did she, did she finally, did she finally steal the episode
content? Do you guys have radio contact? I, I think they got distracted. Comms went down with
the EMT blast. Dammit. That's the nicer interpretation
than they just, you know, well, got, got distracted by something. Shiny or, you know. Yes,
there was a backout. That too. Eh, I. Guess, uh, until then where no story is sacred
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